Metal Detecting Forums Are Toxic for New Detectorists

Metal Detectorists are Exactly what the public thinks you are!! Why?  Because that is the image you are portraying to the public on your metal detecting forums!!! Your toxic, unethical teachings are public for all to see, and you wonder why the public considers detectorists as scavengers and disrespectful to public properties, because you TEACH THAT ON YOUR FORUMS!!!

I personally quit being a member of metal detecting forums awhile back, for many reasons.  One of which is the lack of any REAL useful metal detecting knowledge for a new detectorist. Any more, the quick answer to every detecting question is “Use the minelab equinox” Your detector sucks if it isn’t an Equinox.”  Your AT PRO sucks, get an Equinox

Guess what I KNOW FOR A FACT about the AT PRO vs Equinox BS? They’re equal in every department!  I sent out months ago a challenge to ANYONE with an Equinox to stack it up against my AT PRO, on twitter, with over 2500 followers, guess how many put their money where their mouth is? NONE!!! NOT ONE!  Not even You with yours!

Yet, every metal detector that comes out, some imaginary line has been drawn that if it isn’t an Equinox it isn’t worth investing in.  Who’s hands are you talking about when you tell people that?

Because in MY hands My AT pro will hold it’s own against any of the best in the world, period, because I know what it is telling me!  Who are those guys to tell someone what MY detector isn’t just because they weren’t good with one?

Who made these so called experts , experts? Half of those guys teaching on those forums, really shouldn’t be, they don’t know wtf they’re talking about and STILL spewing the same drivel 4 years later they were saying back then, have you not advanced yet?

I went to a seeded hunt with my own CTX 3030, a MUCH better machine than an Equinox, and hunted Two Hunts.  The first hunt with the CTX 3030, Minelabs TOP DOG HANDS DOWN, found Zero Silver coins!!! – An EQ on Steroids!

THEN, I switched to the AT PRO and put it in Capable Experienced hands, and guess what I found? FOUR Silver coins, An IKE Dollar, And A Benjamin Half dollar!

Now, before that happened, guess what a buddy said to me when I told him I was switching from the top of the line Minelab to my Garrett AT Pro?  “Blasphemy, you know the 3030 is better”

Better for who, or what, or when?  THAT is what you need to understand about these BS comments you read on those metal detecting forums, these so called experts who either simply don’t know better, or, they’ve used ONE metal detector and swear by it to the point that they disrespect and minimize anyone who doesn’t use their same so called end all be all detector!

Then, add to that the UNETHICAL PRACTICES that are FREELY TAUGHT to New Detectorists that they don’t have to follow the Code of Ethics, any more it’s Just sneak onto wherever you want to, disregard rules, laws, or ordinances, and go where ever you want when ever you want.

And the forum admins just allow it, like it’s common practice?  I mean some went as far as requesting the resident idiot Tom UNETHICAL DETECTORISTS POSTS SHOULD BE A STICKY on the forum so new detectorists can easily find his Unethical Practices to use as their own unethical practices????

Why doesn’t someone grow a pair and man up and stand against that unethical education they teach on the notso friendly forums?  Is it because you would rather just be able to do whatever you want, because everyone else is doing it? Is it cowardice?  Is it approval by silence?  Are you afraid to do the right thing?  Then why isn’t anyone manning up and saying enough is enough of this unethical teaching and practices, people can see you Publicly telling new people to break the rules, break the code of ethics, you openly teach them to be unethical!!!

So as a new detectorist, I caution you from picking up these worthless practices as your own.  ANY metal detector is capable of finding targets, all you have to do is Learn THAT metal detector and what it is telling you.

LIKEWISE, there is a snot nosed (He’s always sniffing snot in videos) guy Calabash putting out videos knocking every detector but his.,… yet he disables comments, so no one can state any true facts …ask yourself, if he is so confident. if his statements are nothing but facts, why FEAR COMMENTERS asking questions to Challenge your so called facts?

Because they are OPINIONS, no facts, he doesn’t want to let you make him look stupid by stating challenging facts, after all, it would ruin his snot nose image, and we can’t have that can we calabash?

And while we are vacuuming coins out of the ground… did you ever study Probabilities in high school?  You know 4 red, 3 blue, 5 orange balls in a bag, what’s the probability of pulling an orange ball out of the bag? Remember that?

Some people don’t…and here is how I know… so a group of guy in a popular metal detecting channel just so happens to have once in a lifetime hunts, all the time, like well HUNDREDS of once in a life time hunts,  videos full of them, with viewers duped into thinking this is reality!

Listen, we all have great hunts, some have great hunts more than others, lets give them 60% of those hunts as killer, virgin ground, once in a life time finds… but you’re bullshitting yourself if you haven’t figured out those coins being vacuumed out of the ground were planted there to be found on video!!! Yeah, someone had to break it to you!!!

Someone mentioned recently that they should do guided hunts to vaccuum coins out of the ground, boy once the heat got turned up, all sudden he was trying to minimize all the amazing finds in his videos, talking about trash….in other words, gettin a little too close asking to go along and see it first hand, in real time! NO WAY that channel has once in a lifetime hunts thousands of times, and if you think otherwise, I have a Long Range Coat Hanger to sell you that will twist in your hand when you twist it to help  find gold.

I just feel irresponsible for standing by idly and watching this BS, and seeing new people to the hobby thinking this is really how the hobby is supposed to be!

I know of a guy with Many George Washington Inaugural buttons, And always wondered how he had found so many and others would likely never find one. Then, I talked with a guy who knows him very well, and he let me in on a little secret, he has so many GW buttons, because he was sneaking on state and federal lands, and in effect stealing them from protected properties, along with his buddy.

That guy once told me I couldn’t do what he does when i said finding colonial on the east coast is like shooting fish in a barrell, now I know what ya meant, Heavy, you’re right, I couldn’t lose my ethics and do what you do!  Nor would I want to, and you wanted people to think you knew more than they did, nah, you just broke laws and rules that we didn’t nothing exceptional there my man!

Tired of what I’m seeing on the forums.

Faking finds for viewers, making money off of videos, making money selling products, and straight out duping new detectorists is sickening, and someone needed to say something about it!

Anymore, it’s all about click-bait, goofy thumbnails on videos, getting sponsors and swearing by a lesser product in exchange for money or items.

You even have dealers that don’t know any more than you or I about detectors, yet one big boy always says “This is a great machine, top of the line” about every detector he suggests on forums, yet dude NEVER educates on the differences, because ALL HE KNOWS IS WHAT HE READS ON THE SPECS! Yet, people gobble it up, and take it as face value, he’s a supposed expert!

Point being, these types of things are TOXIC to new detectorists in the hobby where they are told if they don’t use specific metal detectors, they’re wrong, less than, uninformed, and not worthy of honesty.  It’s TOXIC to new detectorists to go on the forums and literally TEACH THEM HOW TO BE UNETHICAL by telling them to disobey ordinances, park rules, private property laws etc, basically telling new detectorists that we are all above the law, and we know better than to follow rules, and that you don’t have to either, because we said so.

What’s even more baffling is the forum owners and admin allow the unethical practices to be taught, hell they even post on the forum saying the same toxic unethical things, do what ya want when ya wnt, after all, it’s easier to ask forgiveness than to do the right thing, right?

To My Point, a member asked recently why the forum is dead… ON THIS POST  he got banned for asking… think about THAT for a minute!!!

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Indicators to look for when Metal Detecting Homesteads

The difference between a successful metal detectorist and those who are not can sometimes come down to which guy is the most knowledgeable when it comes to reading the landscape.

Whether you are detecting at an 1800’s Victorian house or an abandoned homestead in the woods there are indicators that you can read which can help you increase your chances of finding better targets.

Knowing what indicators to look for can make the difference between having an okay hunt and having an epic hunt! One feature that you can look for are square curbs that are traditionally smaller than modern curbs.

When you see square curbs with 90 degree angles, that’s an indication that the property may be older than it appears at first glance.

The grass row between those curbs and the houses are where the horse & buggies would have parked, and then later where cars also parked. Those curb strips are good areas to find dropped items. Likewise the area between the sidewalk and house is another great place to find dropped items.

In Victorian times, houses had decorative or ornate wrought iron types of fences. Houses and fences were built of a better quality than what we see today. Those fence types can be a good indicator that you are in an older area, even if the house itself doesn’t look very old. It’s possible that a newer house was built in place of one that was torn down.

Old farmsteads also had fences, both rock and wooden. Sometimes a farmer would hide his cache under a wooden fence post. When he needed some money, he “had a fence to mend” and no one was the wiser. You might want to dig those larger targets that a lot of guys ignore. A jar of coins in a mason jar is going to sound off like a larger target. If you pass those larger targets up, you might be walking past that cache of gold coins that you’ve always been searching for.

In the yard there will also be other spots that you should detect. Look for depressions in the ground that are round. Many times when trees are cut down or fall down, there will be a depression left in the ground where the tree once stood.

Likewise, look for Daffodils or other flowers that are in a circle. More than likely those flowers were planted around the base of a tree. Detect those spots because in the early days houses did not have air conditioning, so people would sit outside under a shade tree and have a drink or picnic.

Last year I found a gold ring in a patch of daffodils. I figure that the lady of the house probably lost her ring while planting those flowers. Yucca plants are another plant that is routinely found growing on older homesteads.

If you see Yucca plants or daffodils near a path or walkway, or even just randomly in the woods, you are more than likely near or on an old homestead. Someone planted those flowers since daffodils are not a native plant to the United States. The species is native to Western Europe from Spain and Portugal east to Germany and north to England and Wales. Some old timers say that daffodils are deer resistant which is why they thrive well in gardens. Yuccas are widely grown as ornamental plants in gardens.

Many species also bear edible parts, including fruits, seeds, flowers, and flowering stems which may explain why Yucca plants are found on old farmsteads. Native Indians found yucca plants very useful for many things such as needle and thread, rope, and even used it to make shampoo.

Another good indicator of an old homestead where no house stands today is if you find non native trees growing seemingly at random in the woods. Look for trees or bushes that are in a row. If you see fruit trees in an area that seems out of place, chances are you’ve found an old homestead.

A great area to find old coins is along walking paths and sidewalks. Older sidewalks will be lower than the surrounding grass and soil. That indicates that over time the soil has accumulated and that more than likely the sidewalk has sunk a bit over time. If the soil is level with the sidewalk that may tell you that some topsoil has been removed. That can be a good sign because older coins are going to be deeper usually, so with some topsoil removed you may be able to get to some deeper coins.

If you’re detecting where the sidewalk is level with the soil and grass and you aren’t having any luck finding old coins, chances are that when the soil was removed, so were the older coins. Both instances will give you one more idea of where you should concentrate your efforts and maximize your detecting time. I’ve found more Quarters near sidewalks than in any other two areas combined!

Another spot that you may want to focus on is large bare areas where the grass doesn’t grow very well. If you notice that the grass grows beautifully everywhere except a certain spot, that might tell you that a building or outhouse may have stood there at one time. It can also indicate a high traffic area that people may have congregated in the past. Check out those bare spots.

The cracks in sidewalks are often over looked by most detectorists. Coins can work themselves down into the cracks and become lodged. Most older sidewalks don’t have rebar running through them, so in older spots you can get away with scanning over the sidewalk. I have found old coins this way, and usually just use a screw driver that’s been rounded and blunted to pop the coins from in between the cracks.

Along old driveways, both concrete and gravel are great areas to detect. In the gravel and beside the driveway can be a honey hole for coins. Think about it, you’re reaching into your pocket for car keys and when you pull your hand out coins drop in the grass, or your wedding ring comes off and you don’t even notice that it came off. Detect those areas along driveways and walking paths.

In days gone by mailboxes were at the end of driveways and people could pay for postage by leaving coins in their mailboxes. As a result, coins were lost where the mailbox once stood. Don’t ignore the beginning of a driveway when detecting an older homesite.

Additionally, the front steps of an old house are another great area to find lost items. When people reach into their pockets to pull out their house keys coins and other items can come out with the keys and fall through the cracks in the wooden stairs. Sometimes you can detect under those steps if they have open sides. The area under steps is a nectar sector for old coins that were dropped through the years. (I just wanted to say nectar sector) You can also look for sidewalks that seemingly lead to nowhere.

That can tell you that another building or outhouse may have stood there at one time but is now long gone. It can also indicate that the house may have been remodeled or rebuilt at one time. Maybe those sidewalks led to a side entrance, or possibly to a porch that was removed.

Old gas lamp posts in the yard can be a good indicator that a house is older than the 1970s. Gas lamps were used regularly up until the ‘70s before becoming too expensive to operate. You might also look for old swing sets or other play areas like a sandbox. Those can indicate that children do or did live there at one time. Those spots can hold old coins and other artifacts lost by kids playing.

Very large trees can be another great area to find old coins and other relics. Back in the day, older trees were used for wind protection for the house and shade in the summer time. Those old trees were gathering areas, and even if a house no longer stands on the property, those big old trees can still be a honey hole for you. I have found old coins and even rings around large trees in the woods. Sometimes clothes lines were run from the house to a tree. Detecting the area around clothes lines can turn up old coins or other trinkets that fall out of pants or shirt pockets.

If you look out into a field and see a few very large trees sitting there, chances are a house sat in between or near them at one time. Don’t ignore those trees, swing your metal detector around them and you will be rewarded like I was the other day when I found a silver plated Roy Rogers Saddle ring from the 1950’s by a large tree in the woods.

1950’s Silver Plated Roy Rogers Saddle Ring

I knew a house had sat there at one time, and on my second target of the day I found this ring! Old trees mean old things! Over grown areas can sometimes be great spots to metal detect. It’s possible that the area wasn’t always overgrown.

Rectangle or square depressions in the ground may also indicate that a building once stood there. Many detectorists have great luck detecting old cellar holes. One way to find old cellar holes that aren’t easy to spot is to scout the area while there is snow on the ground.

There are two reasons for that, one is that when there is snow on the ground, it is easier to see the contour of a depression in the ground. If you see a rectangular depression that is lower than the surrounding ground, chances are good that a house or barn once stood there. Secondly, if you do your scouting for old homesites in the winter the leaves will have fallen off of the trees and you will be able to see further into the woods. I have found old foundations much easier during the fall and winter because it is easier to see when the brush dies back.

If you find pieces of red brick or shards of ceramics scattered about that can also tell you that a house once stood near by. When you see signs like these you can set your metal detector to all metal mode. When you start hearing a lot of chatter from nails scattered about, you can then turn the discrimination up and start working the area more thoroughly in search of better targets.


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Ring Found on the path

I decided to go back to a spot where I have found some interesting finds while metal detecting in the past to see if I could find anything else.

I’ve detected this spot in the past, and so have other people, but I knew that there are still good targets there to be found.  As I was detecting a path to a creek I got a penny tone on the AT Pro, and since I was diggin everything anyway, I decided to dig the target…

About 3 inches down, there it was, a ring in the plug. Like I said, it sounded like a penny, but it turns out that it’s stainless steel, I think… I know it isn’t silver, and it’s not marked anywhere, so I figure its just a junker.

The ironic part is that, after some time researching the symbol, it turns out that it says “GEM” where the gemstone would be…funny.

It’s been awhile since I’ve found a ring so I was happy to find a ring on an otherwise average hunt.  It goes to show you that some of those penny signals you pass up, are not pennies… Ya just never really know until ya dig ’em.

A ring is a ring,  maybe the next one will be GOLD!  Hey, a fella can wish can’t he?

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